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Post  cejsmith 4/7/2011, 11:45 pm

If I don't sell the nos monster , as I want more power with out the NOS. What would be the cheapest way forwards , more work on exsisting head , replacement vvc head and should I do a MEM3 upgrade.

And here is the importnat bit now much!!!!! Shocked
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Post  Rich 5/7/2011, 2:19 am

Well I could possibly do you a deal on an extremely reliable VVC engine and ancilliaries...

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Post  cejsmith 5/7/2011, 6:10 am

I do actually already have a vvc head ( with a few bent valves)
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Post  Matt Parker 6/7/2011, 7:34 am

Converting to mems3 and having a ZandF tune up is always going to be worth doing...

and Im sure I can help you out with most or maybe all of the parts required Wink
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Post  gotenks1321 7/7/2011, 7:04 pm

There's an Emerald on eBay at the moment that may be worth a look Wink

Could you not get a VVC head, blank of the VVC and go all out with bigger valves and the better cams etc that you've got already?
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Post  cejsmith 7/7/2011, 9:06 pm

gotenks1321 wrote:There's an Emerald on eBay at the moment that may be worth a look Wink

Could you not get a VVC head, blank of the VVC and go all out with bigger valves and the better cams etc that you've got already?

I can't find the emerald on ebay do you have a link?
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Post  gotenks1321 7/7/2011, 9:23 pm

cejsmith wrote:
gotenks1321 wrote:There's an Emerald on eBay at the moment that may be worth a look Wink

Could you not get a VVC head, blank of the VVC and go all out with bigger valves and the better cams etc that you've got already?

I can't find the emerald on ebay do you have a link?

Sure do - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300573327244&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT cheers

I was watching it to see if it goes cheaper than I got mine for Laughing
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Post  cejsmith 7/7/2011, 10:08 pm

found it!!!
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Post  Matt Parker 10/7/2011, 10:08 pm

remember I mention about a mems3 conversion package thrusday night Col, well the one I put together for a Rover 25 now doesn't require it so I have all the parts required so if you do decide to go this route just let me know Smile
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Post  gotenks1321 10/7/2011, 10:10 pm

If Colin decides he doesn't want it then my dad may well be interested after spending yesterday at Santa Pod, he's hooked and wants more power Embarassed
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Post  Matt Parker 10/7/2011, 10:15 pm

Im sure I may be to put together another kit if needs must Smile
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Post  gotenks1321 17/7/2011, 6:57 am

Matt Parker wrote:Im sure I may be to put together another kit if needs must Smile

How much do you think one would cost? My dad is interested Headbanger
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Post  Matt Parker 17/7/2011, 8:20 am

Well you will need to tell me what you are starting with and what you want to convert.

for example I have a package ready to go for a Rover 25 1.4 to convert a mems 2J VVC engine and plug and play which consists of...
25 GTi engine wiring loom
25 GTi ECU with matched 5AS and fob
160 inlet manifold(smooth black top)
mems3 camshaft cover
VVC coil packs and leads
brand new temperature sensors for coolant and HCU(oil)
this lot is £190

if you let me know then I could sort out all parts required as I should have them all what ever it is Laughing
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Post  gotenks1321 17/7/2011, 8:51 am

Sweet Shocked

He's currently got a mems 2J VVC and looking to convert it to mems3 so that it can be remapped Twisted Evil Not got any of the parts to do it so far as we were only talking about it this afternoon Laughing
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Post  Matt Parker 17/7/2011, 8:53 am

I will have all parts required if its an F too and I can convert the wiring loom body plugs to suit before hand if required to plug and play Smile
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Post  gotenks1321 17/7/2011, 8:59 am

Sorry, yep it's an F Embarassed

Plug and play would be very much appreciated after the fun I've had today getting my wiring loom out Laughing Not even started to modify the other one for the Emerald yet Rolling Eyes

How much do you think for all of that?
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Post  Nick 17/7/2011, 9:01 am

Mmmm still something I'm considering, (depending on price obviously) would the fact I have aircon make a difference as I know its a slightly different loom?

So how many bhp is the Z&F remap worth then?
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Post  Matt Parker 18/7/2011, 6:35 am

Having aircon wont affect it as it will just rquire the extra wires in the loom for the compressor and then the link in from the body plug direct to the ECU from the aircon control relay pack.

ZandF tune up will vary to what you have on the vehicle, engine condition and what you want in the way of the tune up but an average of 7-10% increase is about what your expect to get.

Conversion kit with a modified loom for plug and play would be about £260
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Post  Nick 18/7/2011, 7:57 am

Ooh at that price it could be do-able so long as someone wants to buy a normal Milltek I happen to have knocking around....best hope eBay gets a good price for it Wink
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Post  Rich 18/7/2011, 3:55 pm

You have a spare Milltek? I assume you're not referring to the one currently fitted to your car, as that is fine with MEMS3. My dad could be interested at the right price!

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Post  StevePem 18/7/2011, 7:58 pm

Hmmm, so what exactly is a "normal" Milltek? Do you just mean the tailpipes are in the normal outside position rather than in the centre like the one on Banshee?

I suppose it is an F fitting not a TF?

Still half and half about changing the TT although not sure that the Milltek would be any quieter in the cabin than the TT.
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Post  Nick 18/7/2011, 10:00 pm

Hi Steve,Yup its a MK1 F fitting and it's the same type as Rays.
Rich I need to check it over, I was going to see if anyone wanted it here first for £100, if not I was going to bung it on ebay for £150.
I need to check the flange but will let you know once I'm happy it's 100%, you can have first refusal.
I'll start a proper for sale thread later in the week

Right back on topic, so if I can get an extra 7-10% with a Z&F remap I'd be looking at 175ish BHP...schweet Very Happy
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Post  cejsmith 18/7/2011, 10:26 pm

Nick I thought you had finished on the engine front?
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Post  Rich 18/7/2011, 10:30 pm

Back off topic topic again, just for a mo...

Nick, subject to it being fittable, consider it sold!

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Post  Nick 18/7/2011, 10:34 pm

cejsmith wrote:Nick I thought you had finished on the engine front?

well yes I have ....sort of Laughing I was just thinking that if this was a 'relatively simple' plug and play swap (ie something I could do with some spanenrs), for 'reasonable' money thats a good performance upgrade isnt it? put it this way its on the long term plan I think, as I still need to fit my polybush kit first.
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